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	<title>Comments on: Submitting disabled forms with DOM inspector</title>
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		<title>By: Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.scohen.org/scohen/2005/09/12/submitting-disabled-forms-with-dom-inspector/comment-page-1/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh....</description>
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		<title>By: Steve, not Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.scohen.org/scohen/2005/09/12/submitting-disabled-forms-with-dom-inspector/comment-page-1/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve, not Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Yes, but usability is important.

Agree.  I was being a bit sarcastic given the codebase I work on.  What I&#039;m bothered by is an app that trusts the browser to enforce client side rules.  A couple of years ago, I was able, via some use of the back button, to submit a 401K withdrawal percentage above what was allowed by the plan.  Apparently, the javascript that was supposed to enforce a business rule failed and the backend dutifully persisted the data as requested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Yes, but usability is important.</p>
<p>Agree.  I was being a bit sarcastic given the codebase I work on.  What I&#8217;m bothered by is an app that trusts the browser to enforce client side rules.  A couple of years ago, I was able, via some use of the back button, to submit a 401K withdrawal percentage above what was allowed by the plan.  Apparently, the javascript that was supposed to enforce a business rule failed and the backend dutifully persisted the data as requested.</p>
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		<title>By: scohen</title>
		<link>http://www.scohen.org/scohen/2005/09/12/submitting-disabled-forms-with-dom-inspector/comment-page-1/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>scohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but usability is important. We disable buttons to give a visual clue not to submit the form.

I also use the Struts token to prevent double submissions, and this is truly a belt and suspenders kind of thing... Also, it&#039;s on an internal app, so we really don&#039;t have to worry about malicious users. 

IE users (god help them) are a different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but usability is important. We disable buttons to give a visual clue not to submit the form.</p>
<p>I also use the Struts token to prevent double submissions, and this is truly a belt and suspenders kind of thing&#8230; Also, it&#8217;s on an internal app, so we really don&#8217;t have to worry about malicious users. </p>
<p>IE users (god help them) are a different story.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve, not Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve, not Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No competent software engineer would even entrust data validation to the UI, much less that which is hosted by an inherently untrustworthy browser!  This could be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No competent software engineer would even entrust data validation to the UI, much less that which is hosted by an inherently untrustworthy browser!  This could be fun.</p>
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